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arcray

We need a VDS Programmer for a 3 month assignment. Either all at once or in stages over the next 6 months.

The project involves a fair amount of database work using ODBC as well
as GUI and document development.

Location can be in our offices in London's Docklands, or working from
home.

Project uses VDS 4.5 and various addon dlls: vdsdll, vdsdde, vdsobj, vdsipp, blowfish and vdsdb. Current code is around 100k, but it is envisaged it will grow to 150k

Call me on +44 (0)20 798 798 14 for further details...

Zoltar · VDS Pirate Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 91

seems to be a profesionnal soft

why using vds Question

you should make it in delphi or C++

Gain of power and speed

Garrett · Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 1:35 am Post subject:

Why not VDS? VDS can do very professional programming if the person using it knows what they're doing.

I have made programs in VDS that worked far better than the same program in C or C++ or Delphi. Didn't make a difference in the language used, it made a difference in the programmer who made the program.

-Garrett

Zoltar · VDS Pirate Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 91

Garrett · Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 5:01 pm Post subject:

Maybe you misunderstand me on this...... It's more a matter of the competence of the programmer than the programming language used. I can code a better working program in VDS than many programmers using Delphi or any other language. Many VDS programmers can do the same.

The programming language is only part of it, the rest falls upon the abilities of the person using the programming language.

Case in point.... One of my *VDS* made programs has received several shareware awards as well as mention on several well known sites, and even on one television show.

My question is this.... Did all these sites and people feel sorry for me because I used VDS for this program, or did they find the program to be professionally made?

-Garrett

Skit3000 · Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2002 7:55 pm Post subject:

Well, I agree with Garrett... Just think how much you should learn to make a good program in VB or Delphi, while you can do the same in VDS with just a few easy command's...

Zoltar · VDS Pirate Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 91

garrett, all the softs you made are certeinly very good, but the same soft using the same way of coding but in delphi is really better.

You said you can do better soft than certain other coder in delphi.
Of course, you're codding in vds for 3 or more years.
if you compare your knowledge in vds to the knowledge of a delphi coder who just began. Sure you can do better softs.

No More Joke.

I love vds, I begin coding with it, I don't say that it's a bad language.
But In my opinion, A code who want to grow hes knowledge must learn many langages.

I first begin with vds and VB (don't like it at all) and Delphi.

Delphi is really a powerfull tool.

If you want to make a program in VDS, you often need some dll extension to bring fonction doesn't exists in vds.

Those extensions are made in Delphi or C++ Cool

hihi

If some coder wants to stay coding in vds all their lives it's up to them.
But They are missing many interresant things.

PS : I thinks we are to far from the real question wich is who wants to help
arcray

Garrett · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 1:20 am Post subject:

All I'm trying to say, is professional programming can be done in
VDS as well as any other language. To be a professionally made
program, it doesn't have to be Java, C++ or something complex.
Just pick a language, learn it well, and make a program that is
quality made.

-Garrett

Garrett · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 1:22 am Post subject:

Zoltar · VDS Pirate Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 91

Skit3000 · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 12:45 pm Post subject:

[ removed by moderator because of illicit content ] - Thank you....

Garrett · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 5:58 pm Post subject:

Ooooops..... Seems we did take a wrong turn. Guess we'd better drop this one now.

-Garrett

Tommy · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 11:33 pm Post subject:

This discussion already has been fought many times, these are some of them:

http://www.vdsworld.com/archive/index.php?page=topic&board=2&topic=609
http://www.vdsworld.com/archive/index.php?page=topic&board=15&topic=160

vdsalchemist · Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 2:04 am Post subject:

Hi Andy,
After all this chit chat about rather VDS can be used for professional work or not did anyone offer to do that work for you? I am willing to take it on if no one has started on it.

Dr. Dread · Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 6:21 am Post subject:

Mindpower!

I don't think that you have time for that. Remember?