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Serge
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 Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 10:01 am Post subject: undocument features of VDS |
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I remember going through the VDS 3.5 manual and finding that there were bits of information missing ie. commands switches missing, . . . Some of which I later found out and found to be very useful.
Following on from that observation, does anybody know of undocumented features of VDS eg. commands, commands switches, functions, dialog elements, . . . anything at all!!!
It would be great if these could be compiled into a text file or a web page...
Thanks for your time,
Serge
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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The only ones that I know of are:
In the dialog create line, use the DESIGN parameter and you
can create a dialog editor. The commands along with that are
Attach and Detach. You'll have to play around with it.
Also You can use an index number with the command List PUT
List Put, List1, Some Text Here, 1
This will put "Some Text Here" in position 1 of list1.
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Lucyfer
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
As I post in another thread, there's an undocumented option with @datetime() which is used to seed the RANDOM function.
| Code: | | Random @datetime(snd) |
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Tommy
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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@datetime(snd) returns the number of seconds, minutes and days appended after eachother.
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Dr. Dread
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Lucyfer wrote: | Hi,
As I post in another thread, there's an undocumented option with @datetime() which is used to seed the RANDOM function.
| Code: | | Random @datetime(snd) |
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I'm afraid that this is no undocumented option for @datetime() - it simply returns a number
consisting of second+minute+date. Try this:
| Code: | | info @datetime(snd)@cr()sec = @datetime(s)@cr()min = @datetime(n)@cr()date = @datetime(d) |
You may use @datetime() in many other ways to obtain a number for seeding your random number
generator. For instance, @ext(@datetime()) or @prod(@datetime(s),@datetime(m)).
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Lucyfer
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Oops! 
Well, uh... Ok then it's another undocumented feature.
The option 'n' for @datetime() is not listed, only 'nn' is.. 
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MarkTrubo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget about the de-duplicating
feature/bug when you create a list sorted! |
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Lucyfer
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| Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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MarkTurbo: Wow! What a bug!  
Assign/append/add to a sorted list remove all duplicates.. wow!
Do you know when(version) this one appeared ?
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Sylvester
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| Lucyfer wrote: | MarkTurbo: Wow! What a bug!
Assign/append/add to a sorted list remove all duplicates.. wow!
Do you know when(version) this one appeared ?
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Hi guys, 
Mac and I discussed this thing a while back. He convinced me that maybe, just maybe, this was intentional. Mac prefers to think of it as a feature. Me, I think it's just strange. But then there a lot of things that I think are strange, so that doesn't really mean much. 
Take look at this code to see how this works. I used it on the following directory with the items listed below.
c:\BogusDir
log.txt
names.txt
testfile.txt
testfile.tx1
testfile.tx2
testfile.tx3
testfile.tx4
Copy of testfile.tst
Copy of testfile.txt
Copy of testfile.tx2
log.tx1
log.tx2
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TITLE Sorted Lists
DIALOG CREATE,Different Lists,-1,0,764,259
DIALOG ADD,TEXT,LISTS,5,5,,,Results with different LIST types.
DIALOG ADD,TEXT,OrigFileList,30,5,,,Original FileList
DIALOG ADD,LIST,FileList,50,5,180,200
DIALOG ADD,TEXT,ComboElement,30,205,,,Sorted Combo Element
DIALOG ADD,COMBO,SortedCOMBOElement,50,205,180,21,,SORTED
DIALOG ADD,TEXT,ListElement,30,390,,,Sorted List Element
DIALOG ADD,LIST,SortedLISTElement,50,390,180,200,SORTED
DIALOG ADD,TEXT,SortedList,30,575,,,Sorted List Result
DIALOG ADD,LIST,SortedLISTResult,50,575,180,200
DIALOG SHOW
LIST CREATE,1
LIST CREATE,2,SORTED
LIST FILELIST,1,c:\BogusDir\*.*
%X = 0
REPEAT
rem *** Adds to the SORTED COMBO ELEMENT
LIST ADD,SortedCOMBOElement,@name(@item(1,%X))
rem *** Adds to the SORTED LIST ELEMENT
LIST ADD,SortedLISTElement,@name(@item(1,%X))
rem *** Adds to the Created SORTED LIST
LIST ADD,2,@name(@item(1,%X))
%X = @succ(%X)
UNTIL @equal(%X,@count(1))
rem *** This displays the contents of the ORIGINAL File List
LIST ASSIGN,FileList,1
rem *** This displays the contents of the SORTED List
LIST ASSIGN,SortedListResult,2
:EVLOOP
WAIT event
GOTO @event()
:CLOSE
LIST SAVEFILE,FileList,c:\list.txt
LIST CLOSE,1
LIST CLOSE,2
EXIT
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As you can see, if you are using SORTED DIALOG elements (list, combo), it retains the duplicate items. However if you use a regular SORTED list, all duplicates are removed from the list. None of these are mentioned in the documents.
So use a dialog element if you want to hang on to duplicates in your list.
P.S. This only in reference to VDS 3.5. I do not have v4 yet so I haven't tested it on that.
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MarkTrubo
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| I think the de-dupr thing is a feature too -- I just called it a bug since it was not documented. We use it as a feature in a number of our office programs. Much easier than looping through with each item!!! |
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Serge
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for your replies. That sorted list one is certainly news to me!
Another one i didn't know until i looked at a script example: it is possible to have the progress bar in a colour other than blue and that it can be continuous - does it say anything about that in the help file? I certainly couldn't find it when i looked at it.
It says that the progress bar can have styles, but what are those styles?
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Liquidcode, can i have a simple example (not to take up too much of your time) on the DESIGN thingy - i don't get it!
Thanks,
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Here ya go Serge (thanks to LiquidCode for this info).
Click and drag the button.
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rem -- VDS3 & VDS4 compatible --
rem -- Move elements using the undocumented DESIGN style --
OPTION SCALE, 96
Title By Mac
DIALOG CREATE,Design Style,-1,0,300,200,DESIGN
DIALOG ADD,BUTTON,B1,5,5,60,20,"Button"
DIALOG SHOW
:CLICK
:EVLOOP
WAIT EVENT
goto @event()
:B1CLICK
DIALOG ATTACH, B1
:B1CHANGE
goto EVLOOP
:CLOSE
EXIT
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SnarlingSheep
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Not as simple as Mac's, but lets you add a button to move around and is for VDS 4. Thought it might be of some help.
Mac: Looks like you don't need the CLICK style when using the DESIGN style. Maybe that's just VDS 4?
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TITLE Design Test
DIALOG CREATE,Design Test,-1,0,300,200,DESIGN
DIALOG ADD,BUTTON,Add,130,115,75,25,Add Button
DIALOG SHOW
:evloop
wait event
%%Event = @event()
REM Check for Add Button.
if @GREATER(@POS(Add,%%Event),0)
gosub AddCLICK
goto evloop
end
REM Check for plain CLICK event.
if @EQUAL(%%Event,Click)
DIALOG DETACH,%%Name
goto evloop
end
REM Check to see if added button was clicked.
if @GREATER(@POS(Click,%%Event),0)
%%Name = @STRDEL(%%Event,@DIFF(@LEN(%%Event),4),@LEN(%%Event))
DIALOG ATTACH,%%Name
goto evloop
end
REM Check for Change event(Happens after dragging an attached element)
if @EQUAL(@SUBSTR(%%Event,@DIFF(@LEN(%%Event),5),@LEN(%%Event)),Change)
goto evloop
end
REM Go to any other event.
goto %%Event
:AddCLICK
%%ButtonName = @INPUT(Enter Name of Button)
DIALOG ADD,Button,%%ButtonName,5,5,75,25,%%ButtonName
exit
:Close
exit |
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Mac
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| Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Hey Sheep,
It was to release the button once ya grabbed it
(I think... it's been a while since I wrote this).
Cheers, Mac
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