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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:28 pm    Post subject: Forcing Windows reboot Reply with quote

Hi,

I have a program that downloads a small file from my website.
If the download doesn't succeed I know my webserver is down and the program will reboot Windows.
Unfortunately the webserver (LanSuite) displays an error message after some hack-attempts and gets stuck. The only way to enable things is by maually clicking OK in the error message and rebooting Windows after that.
I cannot get my program to reboot Windows when this error message is on screen. I can see from my log that the program recognises the sutuation every 15 minutes and writes a line in the log file, but somehow the reboot will not succeed.
For the reboot I use EXITWIN FORCEREBOOT and before this I use KILLTASK to try and kill the Lansuite software and the RUN32DLL.EXE that (I think) is responsible for displaying the error message, but so far without any luck.
Does any of the VDS guru's has any tips on how I can force the error message out and reboot Windows? Unfortunately the error message window has the same title as the server softwares main screen so I don't think closing the error window will be easy, but I haven't tried that approach yet.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would suggest that if you were forcing a restart of windows, to kill all
tasks and then try the restart command. Then this way there would be
nothing blocking the restart of windows. Smile

Let me know if you want some example code.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The better option would be to reformat Windows to solve this problem - if possible.

Other than that you can check for the presence of the error dialog. Since you know the time when Windows is shutting down you can close all tasks open and then attempt a shutdown.

Your error message should then popup - since no other programs are open the error window should be the only one visible. Simply do a MOUSE click in VDS at the position of the button on their error message screen to force the reboot.

But again I'd say try to fix the problem with Windows first. It really sounds like a problem with the application rather than Windows - it sounds as if the program does not respond to the WM_QUERYENDSESSION api sent to it by Windows and is not shutting down - thus causing Windows to attempt a forced shutdown/termination of the app to complete the reboot cycle.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killing all tasks would be fine since the server needs to rebooted anyway.
I presume you'll use LIST TASKLIST for that but an example is always welcome.
I really hope this will work because it really looks as if the error message of Lansuite is blocking everything I try untill the message is answered by clicking OK.
Thanks for the speedy answer by the way....... this looks like instant replying. What a service Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Prakash

You are right it isn't a Windows problem but a problem with Lansuite.
When a hacker sends it some '<E:> DoHTTP-xxxxx' commands the Webprox.dll of that applications goes into the error message.
To make sure my website is never offline longer than 15 minutes I scheduled the VDS program to download the testfile every 15 minutes and take action when the download fails.
The MOUSECLICK option might be a good idea as well, but I will have to wait for a hacker to attack when I'm home so I can try and figure out the position of the OK button. Maybe sending an Enter keystroke to that window might have the same effect? The minute the error window is closed my vds program can reboot Windows (as I found out when I clicked the OK buton when the vds program was about to make a scheduled appaerance)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying that your server crashes because it has a vulnerability
that hangs the server? If so, I would highly recommend upgrading to
the latest version. Smile

P.S. I will post example code in a few minutes.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the sad thing in the whole story ........ I have the latest version of Lansuite which in itself is a wonderful (5-users free) package that contains a webserver, faxserver, firewall, mailserver, proxyserver all in one program. It performs really well the only glitch I have had in the almost two years I use it now is the sometime failing webprox.dll. If they can solve that (as they promised) in the next update I'm a very happy user.
Lucky for me the form of attack that brings down the dll are not very common, but even once a week or every other week is too much. And I want to make sure the server is operatable 24 hours a day so that's why I made this test program that reboots the server if things get out of hand.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think sending the keystroke ENTER more than likely should close the error message instantly. Otherise you can try to send a keystroke - TAB it selects the button, then send the keystroke ENTER or the SPACEBAR key to do the closing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some code that should work - I'm writing it off the top of my head,
so I can't guarantee it will work.

Code:
# kill all tasks
list create,1
list tasklist,1,I
%x = 0
repeat
  killtask @item(1,%x)
  %x = @succ(%x)
until @equal(%x,@count(1))
list close,1
info Done.
exit

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks FF!

I gamble on the ENTER keystroke solution first so I changed my program and put it on the server. So now I have to wait until some culprit strikes again until I know if the solution works. When not than your LIST KILLTASK solution will be implemented and tried.
Wouldn't life be heaven if all those idiots used internet as it was intended Crying or Very sad
I'll post any future developments as and when they occur.

Thanks for your time!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to help. Smile
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