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PGWARE · **Web Host** Joined: 29 Dec 2001 Posts: 1563

I got WM_PAINT to work too, but alot of messages seem to be ignored Sad

vdsalchemist · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 4:15 pm Post subject:

Hi All,
If it is a custom message then VDS should Register the Message Name with windows by calling RegisterWindowMessage and the return for RegisterWindowMessage is a message identifier in the range 0xC000 through 0xFFFF. If the function fails, the return value is zero. At least this is what the Win32 API help file says. Your Window cannot respond to just any Message ID you send it. For any message ID that is sent to the window depends on the Window's message loop as to which one it will respond to or process. So if you add a message event to VDS it should have added that ID to it's message loop while keeping it's other ID's in tack. If it is ignoring messages then I guess that part of VDS has a bug in it Sad

Gadget on the other hand works a little different. It intercepts the message before it is posted to the window. Almost as if it has sub-classed the Window and actually the first part of sub-classing a window starts with intercepting the message's targeting the window you want to sub-class.

CodeScript · Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 4:41 pm Post subject:

mindpower
Doesn't the above code work Confused

It worked here both on win 9x and XP pro.

jules · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:09 am Post subject:

I think to be sure of getting a message it has to be a WM_USER+X value. Most messages that are defined by Windows are acted upon by the runtime code itself, which is why you are not seeing them. The point of OPTION MSGEVENT is to allow a script to respond to custom messages sent by an extension DLL.

jules · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 9:22 am Post subject:

PGWARE · **Web Host** Joined: 29 Dec 2001 Posts: 1563

A little off-topic but I noticed you said using api for asynchronus tcp/ip. I'm assuming you are using this for the vds internet suite? Why not use a TThread to create a new thread? For instance when doing a http download you can separate it into another thread and create events while the rest of the vds script continues execution.

jules · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 5:54 pm Post subject:

No, actually the Internet Suite DLL uses polling. I felt that asynchronous TCP/IP would be too difficult for most VDS users to deal with. The message event is only used when you listen on a port. A message is sent when someone attempts to connect to it.

CodeScript · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 7:13 pm Post subject:

Tommy · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 7:47 pm Post subject:

I think indeed, if VDS won't fit for your application, you should use a different programming
language for that application. I think many people that move on to other programming languages
than VDS will still remain using VDS for the more simple applications, like myself (larger projects
get written in Delphi).

VDS isn't meant to be able to do everything, if it could do that, it would probably no longer
have the unique characteristics of VDS that make it very different from all other programming
languages.

To me it seems that VDS has been put over its limits pretty far already by
implementing the
custom DLL calling abilities. It must have taken quite an amount of work, even though it
won't be very useful to the typical VDS user. Most users that would know how to utilize
this ability effictively usually are already using another language than VDS and would
not be interested in learning VDS.

FreezingFire · **Admin Team** Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Posts: 3508

Frankly if I was a new user of VDS I would use the parts that I was able to
use. Just because a programming language isn't being used to its full
extent doesn't mean it is bad. And if a programming langauge includes
advanced features that one user doesn't use, doesn't mean you have to
remove it for all users.

I was originally happy to see VDS get a more mature set of features but
now I'm just discouraged and if the features that will be added/upgraded
in future VDS versions are things such as sending keystrokes I think I
won't be using VDS anymore. Crying or Very sad

It's sad because you can attract a lot
of people by having good features, and no other language I've used has
been so simple to learn and use, even with the advanced functions. And
as for the "advanced users", I'm sure that there and a lot more than just
Mindpower and CodeScript and all the others who regulary do "advanced"
coding.

Excuse me if I offend anyone, but I wouldn't want VDS to turn out like some
bad piece of software like O'Basic. Rolling Eyes

CodeScript · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 5:25 am Post subject:

I understand that ease of use(at best in VDS) and complexity of functions are diagonally opposite things. I am not expecting everything on the earth in the programmming langauge be available in VDS. Also I am not comparing the features available in Delphi/C/Basic here but with very similar languages as VDS written in delphi.

What a user hates is being told that : "Look, this langauge development has almost come to an end as for as you are concerned. If we add any advanced features it is for our own internal use. They are not primarily intended for you. If you get it to work OK else you just go for a extension/different language or bang your head against the wall or whatever we are bothered the least BUT don't come here and start complaining that a certain feature is not available or there are bugs etc like a silly child as we never intended that you use these internal features in the first place. So you better understand not to do such a silly thing as feature request or bug report in future as they will be simply SHOT DOWN OUTRIGHT".

Also everytime I encounter this problem it appears as if VDS is a language built and developed primarily for private use by it's developers. It is being released to general public for a *small* fee purely as a favor done to the public. If that is the case then it is very obvious that asking for anything is expecting a really undue favor ("already the biggest favor of giving you[user] the langugae to use is done").

What adds more to my above thinking is the fact that I haven't seen (I may be wrong/blind ?) any member/represenatative/developer other than Jules from Commercial Research comming here and making a announcement/relpy/explanation or whatever.

Any way I am very angry now and I think I should cool down.

jules · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 8:28 am Post subject:

jules · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:29 am Post subject:

CodeScript · Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:03 pm Post subject: