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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does the real D.D. require the VDS runtime dll, or it is a standalone executable?

I think it *must* require runtime and I don't see any reason to integrate it unless they are using a different version of VDS to create it (but why they would do that?)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps you just program better than them Sticking Out Tounge
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the DD does require the VDS runtime, since it's a VDS program. I don't know why it's so big, because I didn't write it, but I expect it has a lot of embedded resources in it. It also has an embedded program in it that is extracted to the temporary files directory. I don't know what it does, but I think it is something to do with the snap to grid feature which I never use.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That integrated program is for creating the grid indeed. But if that's 50% of the total amount of space, there must be a lot of other files (bitmaps?) included...

Btw. Julian, I just try to add a resource named "button.bmp", and it didn't work. Is this a restriction of VDS? "button1.bmp" does work... Confused

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly there is already another resource with the name "button"...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incidentally, sometimes when I try to compile a program I get a message that it can't open the resource or somesuch. If I try again straight away, it usually works. I haven't touched the file in question, and nothing else is accessing it to my knowledge. I have no idea why this happens, but sometimes I see similar messages coming from Delphi, so I suspect there is something not quite right in Windows.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has it something to do like open.bmp, open1.bmp from a resource is never loaded into VDS image list for combo/table etc ?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jules wrote:
Incidentally, sometimes when I try to compile a program I get a message that it can't open the resource or somesuch. If I try again straight away, it usually works. I haven't touched the file in question, and nothing else is accessing it to my knowledge. I have no idea why this happens, but sometimes I see similar messages coming from Delphi, so I suspect there is something not quite right in Windows.


This ALWAYS happens with me. It says it can't load "default.ico"
when I try to compile with it for the first time. Then I try again
and it works immediately. I figured it was just because I replaced
my DEFAULT.ICO with another icon. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This ALWAYS happens with me. It says it can't load "default.ico"
when I try to compile with it for the first time. Then I try again
and it works immediately.


This happens to me almost everytime I compile as well.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FreezingFire wrote:
jules wrote:
Incidentally, sometimes when I try to compile a program I get a message that it can't open the resource or somesuch. If I try again straight away, it usually works. I haven't touched the file in question, and nothing else is accessing it to my knowledge. I have no idea why this happens, but sometimes I see similar messages coming from Delphi, so I suspect there is something not quite right in Windows.


This ALWAYS happens with me. It says it can't load "default.ico"
when I try to compile with it for the first time. Then I try again
and it works immediately. I figured it was just because I replaced
my DEFAULT.ICO with another icon. Smile


Hi All,
According to CR this is because there is no default.dsp in the directory that you installed VDS 5 to. The fix is to open default.dsc and save it in your VDS 5 directory. After that DD should find the default.ico from then on. It has been my experience with VDS 5 and Windows 2000 that sometimes this does not work but it does cut down on the number of times that this happens.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just include a .DSP file? Or perhaps CR will distribute one
with VDS 5.01 (?) Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FF,
VDS 5 was supposed to have that already but for some reason it does not write it Question Anyway I think it is supposed to be fixed in the next build Wink I can't remember exactly so don't quote me on that Wink

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