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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: Accessing IMAP message store Reply with quote

Hi All,
I wander if anyone knows of a way to access IMAP message stores or wether there is a protocol support within VDS much like the vdsip.dll

I want to add the ability for working with message stores to my script.

Thats the first preferrence, the other is to use VDS to collect mail from an Exchange server ?

Any body tried to do this ?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think many people use it. I've never come across an IMAP server.

RFC 2060 documents the protocol. It looks decidedly non-trivial to me.

I developed the VDSTCP extension. The SMTP, POP3 and FTP protocol support in that are all implemented as DSUs on top of the basic TCP support provided by the DLL.

I'd be interested in developing an IMAP DSU, but only as a commercial project, and it looks like more than a few days work to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Jules for your response. I was reacting to a comment someone said, in that web based mail was a more flexible way to implement email clients and that IMAP was fast becoming the popular way to do this.

Personally I would much prefer to implement a simple POP3 email client as being from the "Old School" I feel offline mail clients are far more user friendly.

Not at the point where I absolutely have to support an IMAP service yet but thought it was worth asking if VDS had already looked at this.

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I don't think many people use it. I've never come across an IMAP server.

RFC 2060 documents the protocol. It looks decidedly non-trivial to me.

I developed the VDSTCP extension. The SMTP, POP3 and FTP protocol support in that are all implemented as DSUs on top of the basic TCP support provided by the DLL.

I'd be interested in developing an IMAP DSU, but only as a commercial project, and it looks like more than a few days work to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy_Fletcher wrote:
Thanks Jules for your response. I was reacting to a comment someone said, in that web based mail was a more flexible way to implement email clients and that IMAP was fast becoming the popular way to do this.


I agree that web based mail is more flexible from the point of view of access, and IMAP makes implementing them easier, as more of the functionality you need is in the mail server ratjer than the CGI scripts.

Andy_Fletcher wrote:
Personally I would much prefer to implement a simple POP3 email client as being from the "Old School" I feel offline mail clients are far more user friendly.


Yes, I agree there too. I developed POP3 Pal (http://www.tech-pro.net/pop3pal.html) as a portable offline mail client alternative to web based mail. but perhaps it does demonstrate the limitations of POP3 where all the mail is in one "folder". There are web mail clients that implement a system of folders while still using POP3 (do a search for JustWebmail) but they must keep track of which message is where using some private database.

Talking of implementing POP3 email clients, I have used one written in VDS for several years. At one point I considered releasing it, but then changed my mind as I decided it had no commercial value whatever but the potential for generating a lot of technical support. If you're curious, there is an orphaned half-done web page for it at http://www.tech-pro.net/mail.html, which contains a link to download the software at the top. Please ignore the "Buy" links and buttons at the bottom of the page, which are left over from when I copied and pasted the page from something else.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jules, your comments are spot on as usual. Many thanks for the links, I will check them out later and feed back comments.

Take care now and regrads
Andy F

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Andy_Fletcher wrote:
Thanks Jules for your response. I was reacting to a comment someone said, in that web based mail was a more flexible way to implement email clients and that IMAP was fast becoming the popular way to do this.


I agree that web based mail is more flexible from the point of view of access, and IMAP makes implementing them easier, as more of the functionality you need is in the mail server ratjer than the CGI scripts.

Andy_Fletcher wrote:
Personally I would much prefer to implement a simple POP3 email client as being from the "Old School" I feel offline mail clients are far more user friendly.


Yes, I agree there too. I developed POP3 Pal (http://www.tech-pro.net/pop3pal.html) as a portable offline mail client alternative to web based mail. but perhaps it does demonstrate the limitations of POP3 where all the mail is in one "folder". There are web mail clients that implement a system of folders while still using POP3 (do a search for JustWebmail) but they must keep track of which message is where using some private database.

Talking of implementing POP3 email clients, I have used one written in VDS for several years. At one point I considered releasing it, but then changed my mind as I decided it had no commercial value whatever but the potential for generating a lot of technical support. If you're curious, there is an orphaned half-done web page for it at http://www.tech-pro.net/mail.html, which contains a link to download the software at the top. Please ignore the "Buy" links and buttons at the bottom of the page, which are left over from when I copied and pasted the page from something else.
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